do you know if michelle obama ever met two women true and joan b. for? >> now, she's talking about melvina. the question was, has michelle obama or did she ever make it to people who knew melvina, did she meet them before she died and they did not. >> i want to follow up on a question raised earlier. what has been the first response to this book better in press accounts her position on the writing of this book which has been a very public thing. "the new york times" has stood behind and jodi cantor has been part of a moment of exploring michelle obama. so it's not as if she doesn't know. press accounts suggest that she has not fully embraced this investigation. and so i wonder now that the books out the story send critics of reagan you're at the schaumburg center research in black culture, has she called you a? have you received an e-mail? [laughter] >> i can tell you that the first lady to send off and call or e-mail reporters. that i know for sure. she is a policy of not participating in books and that is a blanket policy, which is sad for all of us wh